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Talking Out of Turn: Revisiting the '80s with William Diehl An Interview with Kevin Courrier


Author William Diehl
(Sharky's Machine, Chameleon, Primal Fear), a writer who wrote luridly powerful pulp with a political tinge, became a fascinating exercise in self-examination. When I discovered that Diehl was a pacifist who once marched with Martin Luther King in the South during the demonstrations against segregation, I was compelled to find out how such a peaceful man reconciled his polar opposites. To both my surprise and satisfaction, he was more than happy to comply while providing a vivid examination (through his thriller Chameleon) of the growing political mercenary movements in the eighties that would ultimately lead to Waco and Oklahoma City. Diehl would die at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta on November 24, 2006, of an aortic aneurysm. At the time of his death, he was working on his tenth novel.

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kc: I get the impression that when you sit down to write there's quite a war going on in your head.

wd: That's quite true. I find that subconsciously things from my past keep getting in and coming out of the books. A lot of the critics in reviewing Chameleon have called it one of the most violent books ever written. Yet I'm basically a pacifist. I don't own weapons. I don't even have a gun in the house. I live alone on an island. No doubt that it's a throwback to World War II when I served as a ball-turret gunner. All of those latent aggressions and violence are surfacing now. It has to be that because I'm certainly not interested in becoming active in the things I write about. But I should say that there's nothing about the violence and the weaponry that I depict in Chameleon that isn't really happening today.

kc: In this book, you examine an assassination squad -- a secret terrorist organization that trains at "The Farm" -- What is that?

wd: I knew that "The Farm" existed. I've known about it for several years and I met the man who runs it. He's a guy named Mitch Warbell. One night, we started talking about the place and he told me that while a lot of mercenaries go through the training course, many of these people are bankers and folks going to countries where terrorism is prevalent. They take the course as a self-protective device. That's what triggered the idea. Then I went out and took the course. Over a period of six months, I spent time talking to the instructors. Their stories gave me the basis for the book.

kc: When you were describing a moment ago those latent aggressions and the violence, how does it manifest itself when you are writing a book like Chameleon?

wd: The first chapter of the book was triggered by the Doobie Brothers' song "What a Fool Believes," which I heard on the radio as I was driving home. The song started a lovely little romantic story going in my head. Suddenly, it turned very dangerous and it got very violent. I don't know where it came from. All of a sudden, as I'm working on this romantic idyll, it got very tough. It was then that the story took off.

kc: At the heart of this violent story is a particular code of honour. Where does this come from?

wd: Chameleon is a story about honorable people versus dishonorable people. And I've put at the heart of it the Oriental philosophy of honor. My belief is that the Oriental philosophy of honour is a very positive and uncompromising belief. Whereas in my country, you have to struggle just to be a little bit honest. That's why in my novel Sharky's Machine you have four cops who are basically losers who become winners in the end because they couldn't be corrupted. That's also the story of Chameleon where you have two or three people who are honourable. I'm dealing with knights on white horses slaying dragons. And I still believe that's possible.

kc: Does the writing of action fiction though become a safety valve for your own violent fantasies?

wd: It's indeed a great release. What it is, is playing out your fantasies on paper. For instance, in Chameleon, I developed my own brand of martial arts. What I did was draw stick figures where I could try out the moves -- sometimes in front of a video camera -- and describe them. I really got into it. Then I also got into the method of trying to remember things without taking notes which is what these people in the book could do. I never took it as far as them but I found that if I went into a restaurant and found it fascinating enough to use in a book, I can remember every little detail of it. Then I file it away in my word processor. Often I tell people that I'm a method writer because I actually act things out in the room because you deal with your psyche on paper.

kc: How do you act these things out?

wd: If I'm angry, I go in and write a violent passage for a book. When I come out, I don't even want to step on an ant. If I'm writing about a character that I really like, and I know that the character is going to be killed, I can get depressed for a couple of days. In Sharky's Machine, when Nosh, Sharky's best friend, gets killed, I got into a funk over that and I couldn't write for over three days. I was so upset over having to kill that character. When certain things happen, I react emotionally as it is really happening. It can be draining at times. It's a good thing that I live on an island where my house is a hundred feet from the Atlantic Ocean. A lot of times after writing a passage I'll go down to the beach just to calm myself down. What happens is that I get hysterical inside and I can't translate that on paper. How do you describe to anybody the feelings and thoughts that go through your head at times like that? The best thing to do is find a way to get rid of it, once you've used up the part you need to put on paper.

kc: I'd like to take that a step further. If you resolve certain conflicts within yourself, does it also mean that your writing will change?

wd: Absolutely. My writing changed radically from Sharky's Machine to Chameleon. And a lot of it is in the emotional content of the book. I think Chameleon is a better book than Sharky even though it feels colder. Maybe that's because of what some of the characters do in the story.

kc: Has living on the beach provided the sanctuary needed?

wd: Yeah. I remember when the film of Sharky's Machine had its world premiere in Atlanta. All of the movie stars came and it seemed like the biggest thing since Gone With the Wind. As a result of it, I started to get a celebrity status in Atlanta. I was expected to be places and doing things. This started to really disturb me because I started to lose the independence that I had gained by writing these books. One day, I got on this airplane and flew down to the coast of Georgia and told this real estate agent that I wanted an island. The agent found me one immediately. Now I don't even go to the mainland. I don't even want to leave this place. There's one place there that is like Cannery Row restaurant filled with expatriates and people who just go to escape like me. I go there in the morning, read the newspaper and chat, then I don't see them until the next day. Since I moved there my writing productivity just jumped.


kc: I guess the biggest distinction some would have to make meeting you -- or knowing you -- is to separate the man from the writer?

wd: Probably most writers become very involuted and difficult to deal with when they're working. And I feel that I'm difficult to deal with because I vague-out. I can hold a conversation without even knowing what I'm saying. I'm so used to doing it. When I'm through, I wake up one morning and the book is finished and I have nothing to do. It's a bit of a downer because I've been living with it for so long. Then I go and do crazy things like scuba diving for weeks at a time. It's a schizophrenic way to make a living, but I wouldn't have it any other way. I love the isolation. Nobody can invade it. What other occupation is there where you can be totally isolated and deal with yourself in whatever terms you want to deal with yourself in?

Talking Out of Turn #13: William Diehl (1982)


-- Kevin Courrier is a writer/broadcaster, film critic, teacher and author. His forthcoming book is Reflections in the Hall of Mirrors: American Movies and the Politics of Idealism. Courrier continues his lecture series on Film Noir (Roads to Perdition) at the Revue Cinema in Toronto in March. He's also facilitating a film series called Reel Politics at Ryerson University continuing February 27th.

Ken Atchity Guest Speaker Sunday April 22nd At 6pm (central) The Funky Writer Radio Show


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Host Of 'The Funky Writer Radio Show', Publisher of W.I.B. Communications and acclaimed author of 'Brooklyn Story', 'The City Game', 'Street Angel' 'Vampire Park' and 'My Baby Has No Name'


Kenneth Atchity will be Our Guest on April 22nd


 

Author Kenneth Atchity will be our guest on Sunday, April 22nd at 6PM Central. To listen live, go to: www.blogtalkradio.com/thefunkywriter 
or call-in at 347-843-4784.

Dr. Ken Atchity is former professor, producer, and writer of seventeen books. His recent film, “The Kennedy Detail,” was nominated for an Emmy Award. As a literary manager, he has been responsible for launching dozens of bestselling books, and for producing thirty films including the forthcoming “Hysteria.” His clients Clint Hill and Lisa McCubbins’ MRS KENNEDY AND ME is currently #2 on The New York Times Bestseller list. Ken divides his time between New York and Los Angeles, and speaks frequently at writers conferences. His next novel, THE MESSIAH MATRIX, a thriller about the origins of Christianity, appears in May.

William Diehl was a 7-time New York Times bestseller, whose PRIMAL FEAR and SHARKY’S MACHINE were made into major motion pictures. Diehl was at work on SEVEN WAYS TO DIE when he died three years ago, a story Atchity was working on turning into a film with Michael A. Simpson and Judy Cairo of Informant Media, producers of “Crazy Heart” and “Hysteria.” 

Ken was asked to complete Mr. Diehl’s novel, and the result is a fast-paced detective thriller about a unique serial killer in Manhattan who sets out to defy NYPD’s TAZ unit, an inter-precinct unit devoted solely to serial killers. The book is a non-stop procedural, focused on the unique character of detective Micah Cody, whose half-Nez Perce Indian heritage comes to the fore when he stalks the killer in Central Park at night aided by the voices of the peregrine falcons and wolves in the zoo.

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PW Talks with Russell Andrews -

Mighty Aphrodite




PW: How did Aphrodite originate?
Russell Andrews: First, my friend and mentor, the writer William Goldman, called me up to tell me about an obituary that appeared in the New York Times. It turned out that everything in the obit was untrue—and the Times later printed a retraction. Next, as a book editor, I had worked with President Jimmy Carter, who wrote a book for me about aging. He talked a lot about the huge problems that would arise because people kept living longer, like Social Security running out. Third, I became interested in the billions of dollars that were being made by drug companies with products geared for staying young, everything from Viagra to hair restoration. I began to concoct a conspiracy between huge drug companies and the U.S. government—and eventually tied that in to what I'd learned from President Carter and the strange Times obituary.
PW: Robert Ludlum cornered the market on conspiracy thrillers, but Aphrodite seems to take it one step further. Was this a consideration?
RA: I think comparing Aphrodite to Robert Ludlum is a reasonably apt comparison—I certainly hope it is when it comes to sales. But I have to say, I never thought about topping him or taking this book one step further. I just did what felt natural from a character standpoint and a plot standpoint.
PW: Did other mystery writers influence you?
RA: Several other writers have influenced me. William Diehl is one. I admire the way he injects depth into his characters as well as his plots. I've recently become a huge fan of Ian Rankin. I love Rankin's darkness and his ability to reveal weakness, even—well, especially—in his lead character. Finally, although Alfred Hitchcock isn't an author, I've also been tremendously influenced by him, for the suspense he brings to his films as well as the humor.
PW: You seem to be influenced by other films, too. For example, in one scene in Aphrodite, Justin Westwood, the protagonist, looks up a silent movie, The Queen of Sheba, which was a real silent film made in 1921.
RA: I'm a movie fanatic. I've seen a million movies, know a lot about them, and have written quite a few screenplays. I also spend way too much time on sites like IMDB.com and moviecitynews.com. So I thought I'd use all that and have fun with it.
PW: Have the movie rights to Aphrodite been sold?
RA: The film rights have not been sold yet. But my agents are working on it. There has been a reasonable amount of interest.
PW: Have we seen the last of Justin Westwood?
RA: You have definitely not seen the last of Justin Westwood. He's someone I got to love as I was writing Aphrodite. I'm hard at work on the next Russell Andrews thriller, which is called Midas. Westwood returns to find himself in a conspiracy that I think is more frightening—and in some ways even more potentially realistic—than what he has to survive in Aphrodite.
PW: You write under a pseudonym?
RA: There is no Russell Andrews. That's my pseudonym, and my real name is Peter Gethers. The first Russell Andrews thriller, Gideon, was co-written with my now ex-writing partner. He didn't want to keep writing this kind of thriller, and I did. So I took over the pseudonym—the book was quite successful here and was a bestseller in England, so the publishers wanted Russell Andrews more than they wanted Peter Gethers—and I have now written these two [Aphrodite and Icarus] on my own. With this book, Warner Books decided to say that I was really the author. I'm sure it'll help with publicity. And when I tell people that I wrote these thrillers, now I won't have to call my agent or editor to have them swear that I'm not a liar.

"Off the Shelf" Interview With William Diehl


William Diehl Credits Library for His Success
By Ann Hyman


Times-Union book editor, May 11, 1998

Most people who grow up to be writers began life as readers and probably hung out in their local library, toting satchels of books back and forth, looking for their literary groove, guided, it is to be hoped, by a helping librarian.

That's what happened to novelist William Diehl.

He had the perfect audience for his recollections when he spoke Thursday to The Library Guild at its annual meeting.

''The library is where I started to read,'' he said.

He kept it up through grade school and middle school. But, in high school, he skipped the library and hung out with his pals, went to the movies, listened to the radio.

He was still a kid - 17 years old - when he joined the Army Air Corps and flew dozens of combat missions over Europe during World War II. That's when he took up reading again, bundled against the deadly cold of high altitude, jammed into his ball turret with a machine gun on each side of his head and a government-issue book to pass the time during the flight from England to Germany.

The first novel he read on one of those flights was F. Scott Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby.
He returned to reading with the zeal and jubilation of a lost sinner returning to the fold.
Gatsby changed his life.

''I've written eight novels. In every one of them, there's some reference, some tribute to The Great Gatsby,'' Diehl said.

School had turned Diehl off Dickens, but Dickens as a companion on bombing runs turned him on again.

''Charles Dickens is my favorite author, to this day,'' he said. ''I can open one of Dickens' books to any page and just start reading.''

How Diehl was enlisted in the readers' - and eventually the writers' - column by hanging out at the library was an especially appropriate direction for his talk.

Bill Credits Writer Sydney Sheldon With Jump-Starting his Career as a Novelist


By The Times-Union
Judy Wells, May 17, 1998

Author William Diehl, who spoke at the Library Guild luncheon May 7, provided a ray of sunshine in the darkness. The St. Simon's Island resident credits writer Sydney Sheldon with jump-starting his career as a novelist.

According to Bill, Sheldon liked his first novel, Sharkey's Machine, so much he helped promote the book. Not only did he talk it up to others in the industry, encourage friends to buy it and send the publisher a glowing endorsement, but Sheldon also went around Los Angeles personally buying up dozens of copies, thus catapulting it onto the local Best Sellers list.

The two men have never met, although Bill says he has thanked Sheldon often and profusely in writing. He also feels morally duty bound to return the favor. Although unsolicited manuscripts are chucked, Bill reads the first 50 pages of every new novel publishers sent to him for comment.

''If it hooks me I finish it,'' he said, and despite ever-impending deadlines of his own, takes the time to write a complimentary blurb for the cover.

Look for Bill Diehl's newest novel around Christmas. From the plot line he passed along, it will be a corker.

The Thrill Of It All: Interview With Bill Diehl

For best-selling novelist Bill Diehl, promoting each new thriller is almost as rewarding as writing it



By Ann Hyman


Times-Union staff writer, October 17, 1997


There are authors who consider the business of selling books once they are in print to be not their job, to be vaguely demeaning.

Bill Diehl is not one of those authors.

The best-selling writer of Sharky's Machine, Chameleon, Primal Fear and a handful of other thrillers for the thinking thriller reader, loves selling his books, sees it as part of the job.

And Diehl likes meeting his readers.

''They're always kind. They're not going to be there if they don't like your work,'' he said.

Diehl was in Jacksonville last week as part of a promotion tour for Reign in Hell (Ballantine, $25), out just two weeks ago and already climbing on The New York Times, the Publishers Weekly and The Wall Street Journal best-sellers lists.

Intense promotion of Reign in Hell began at a publication party at Beachview Books in St. Simons, Ga., the author's home since 1983, and continues until Thanksgiving.

'Tis the season for book promotions. More books are sold in September, October and November than any other time of the year. Publishers and libraries and booksellers sponsor book events across the country. There are fairs, festivals, read-ins, author tours, signings, lectures, luncheons.

''I'm doing the Rocky Mountain Book Fair in Denver around the first of November and the Miami Book Fair two weeks later,'' he said last Friday.

Getting there is not half the fun for the author.

''I don't like to travel at all,'' he admitted. ''Part of it is I don't like to fly and I particularly don't like to fly those little two-engine airplanes.''

The fun begins for Diehl once he is face-to-face with his readers.

Nancy Thomason is owner of Beachview Books in St. Simons.

She talked about Diehl and his readers at the publication party that launched Reign in Hell.

''He stayed an extra hour and a half because of the line. He took time to talk to everyone,'' Thomason said. ''He is an incredibly generous person with his time.''

But, aren't all authors glad to stick around and sign books as long as readers are lined up to buy?

''Absolutely not,'' she said with a wry twist.

Thomason has lived in St. Simons for more than 20 years, so she's watched Diehl's popularity balloon.

''But he's just very down to earth, a basic type person. He's never let his fame go to his head,'' she said.

Diehl, 73, wrote his first novel, Sharky's Machine, when he was 50.

Giving up his profession of journalist and photographer at 50 was a big gamble, but it paid off. Sharky was a big book, a big movie, and life has not been the same for Diehl since.

Reign in Hell is Diehl's eighth novel.

Chicago lawyer Martin Vain, the hero of Primal Fear and Show of Evil, is back in Reign, battling terrorists, armed-to-the-teeth right-wing militia and a snake-handling preacher with a dark vision of America and a dangerous way with words.

Diehl said researching the book took a long time.

''All of my books are fairly topical,'' he said. ''I don't want to just write thrillers, I want to write books that have some kind of significance, books that have something to say. I began tracking the militia groups three or four years ago, on the Internet, through newspapers.''

He described an anonymous meeting with a militia informant at a picnic table in a park in Brunswick, Ga. The man sat with his back to him. Diehl said, ''I never saw him. All I know is that he was white, had dark hair, was about my size.''

Their conversation, almost word for word, became a chapter in Reign in Hell.

Diehl also read scores of hate pamphlets published by various militia and white supremacy groups. He watched hours of surveillance tapes shown to him by a friend who is a former agent of the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms bureau. He saw militia members making hand grenades, chopping off shotguns.

He found a congregation of snake handlers in Enigma, Ga., to get an authentic view of that intense, seldom-seen religious expression.

He is confident that Reign in Hell treats snake handlers and the militia fairly and tells the truth of the militia agenda.

''The Oklahoma City bombing is what really triggered the book,'' Diehl said. ''It is what made it viable. Prior to that event, people would not have accepted it. I think now, probably, what I'm predicting is an apocalypse of some kind and I think that's possible.''

The Oklahoma City bombing proved what zealots will do in pursuit of their cause.

''And I'm always afraid of zealots,'' the author said.

Reign in Hell is Diehl's favorite of his novels.

''It says a lot about things I feel strongly about, not only about the militia movement, but about developers and polluters and so forth,'' he said.

When his schedule of events promoting the new book wind up, around Thanksgiving, he will take the rest of the year off.

''I'll start a new book in January,'' he said.

He doesn't know yet the subject.

But, Nazi money in Swiss banks interests him. So, maybe Zurich is next stop for Bill Diehl.

''Maybe,'' he said. ''Maybe not.''

Bill Diehl Remembers Bob Wallace

A Novel Relationship



By Karen Hill

Bill Diehl We had a local band that played every night at the YMCA. The last night before we all went off to the war, right in the middle of "One O'Clock Jump," the whole bridge fell off the bass he was playing. We left it in the corner there, kind of as a tribute. It may still be there. I hope so.

That's best-selling novelist Bill Diehl talking about his hometown friend, Bob Wallace. From Clearfield, Pa., both would go on to survive World War II and move to Atlanta. There, Wallace would become the longtime editor of the alumni magazine and many other publications. Diehl would shoot pictures for him for a decade, in the meandering path that would ultimately lead to fame and fortune through several best-selling thrillers.
Wallace has been dead for 28 years; Diehl still refers to him as "my best friend."

The time working for Tech, from the mid-1950s to the mid-1960s, "was very valuable, very rewarding," Diehl says. "We never had an argument. Never had a fight. I still look back on that time with great fondness."

Wallace returned to Atlanta after the war to complete his industrial management degree at Georgia Tech. He stayed, working on Tech publications until his death.

Meanwhile, Diehl was working as a reporter for his hometown paper, The Clearfield Progress, in a town he describes as "so far up in the mountains you had to bail out of a plane to get out." Wallace called, with news that his father-in-law had found a job for Diehl at The Atlanta Constitution. The father-in-law had worked there years before, had read some of Diehl's work, had liked it. Diehl headed south.
But somehow, the Atlanta newspaper missed the memo. There was no job.

"I stood in the lobby, waiting for editor Ralph McGill to come out. When Mr. McGill came out, I told him what had happened. He asked if I had been in the war. I said yes, as a ball turret gunner in a B-24. He said that if I could survive that, I could certainly do a reporter's job," Diehl recalls. "I went to work that night."
Diehl wrote obituaries, then moved to the police beat. Always, writing was his first love, but when the Constitution and rival Atlanta Journal merged in 1950, confusion and layoffs in the reorganized photo department led to his second career: photography.

To make sure there were always pictures to go with his stories, he decided to take them himself.
"I bought a cheap little camera and started taking pictures. A few years later, Bob hired me and that really launched a photographic career," Diehl says.

"I was among the early photographers to use a 35-millimeter camera. Most of the others were using Liecas or 4x5s. What we were doing was kind of experimental.

"I shot every [Geogia Tech] football game for 11 years, then assignments for the alumni publications. We did some really experimental stuff that worked very well."

Some of Diehl's football pictures were printed in Sports Illustrated, rushed after the game to a Delta airplane that would deliver them to New York overnight.

Diehl remembers sitting backward in a moving roller coaster to take a picture of Tech football coach Bobby Dodd enjoying Disneyland while in Los Angeles to play Southern California. He also remembers taking pictures of silicone in the nose of rockets.

Diehl was billed in several Tech publications of the time as "chief photographer." Still, the work was just part-time.

In 1956, Diehl left the Constitution, turning almost exclusively to freelance photography in the next years.
Much of his work was for Georgia Tech; other assignments, including a portrait of Coca-Cola Company Chairman Robert Woodruff that appeared on the cover of Business Week magazine, came through contacts and friends from Tech.

"I also wrote speeches for Ivan Allen before he became mayor. I met John Portman," Diehl says. "I knew a lot of people because I took photos for them; I got to meet a lot of shakers and movers in the early days of Atlanta.

"Atlanta was a wonderful town then, with just half a million people. It was easy to get around, to meet people."

In 1960, Diehl became managing editor of Atlanta magazine. Soon, he and Wallace were freelancing for each other.

"I hired Bob to write articles for us. We also bought houses about a block apart. I became godfather for his oldest child," Diehl recalls.

They also shared a sharp sense of humor.

"Both of us have a caustic, barb-wire humor that comes from being in the service," he explains. "We were very sarcastic and would fire back at each other. Our relationship was built a lot on that."

Then, suddenly, Wallace died of a heart attack. He was 48.

"He had a bad heart, but no one realized it was as bad as it was," Diehl says. There seems to be an underlying regret of signs missed, history unremembered: "His father had died of the same thing, sitting in the doctor's office, waiting for an appointment."

The loss may have given impetus to Diehl's big career leap, on his 50th birthday.

"My wife threw a birthday party for me, and one of the gifts was an ice-cream typewriter from Baskin-Robbins. It was so neat that nobody would eat it," he says. "After the party, I went back to get a piece, but the typewriter was just a molten pile of ice cream. I thought, 'That's my career.'"
The next morning, he sold all his cameras. Soon, he began the nine-month effort of birthing "Sharky's Machine," a dark look at the world of an Atlanta vice cop.

"I haven't lifted a camera since."


Karen Hill is an Atlanta freelance writer.

Living the Dream: An Interview with William Diehl by Sunnye Tiedemann

November 15, 2000

Sunnye Tiedemann, who teaches writing in her community and on AOL, writes short mysteries and is the national newsletter editor for Sisters In Crime. She is working on her first mystery novel.


"I've always wanted to write a book but I just don't have time" must top the list of Comments Authors Hear Most Often. William Diehl, author of the thrilling bestseller Reign in Hell, might have said that. Instead, when he realized he wanted to write a novel and it didn't look like he was going to, he made time -- quit his job -- and wrote the best seller, Sharky's Machine. In Part One he spoke of how he made his dream come true. A warm man, Diehl loves to tell what he's learned about writing, and he's generous with wholehearted encouragement and useful advice.

William Diehl's life is rich with unusual experiences, from childhood on. Mae West was his babysitter (before her Hollywood days); he was a witness to the Hindenberg tragedy; he was a bellygunner on a B-17 in World War II; and he was Martin Luther King, Jr.'s official photographer. Now, after 20 years during which he has spent writing eight best sellers, all in print, Diehl nears the height of his literary powers. He writes about a huge variety of subjects with powerful imagery and energy. There doesn't seem to be anything he can't conjure on a page; there doesn't seem to be any subject that's off limits.

"The subject matter has to attract me," he says. "I once spent two days with a very proficient counterfeiter. I had three hours of interviews with him on the art and decided to do a book based on that knowledge. I got about 100 pages into it and realized it was not going anywhere -- in fact, I was getting bored with it. So I trashed it and wrote 27 instead."

27, reissued last year as The Hunt, is set in World War II Germany. A master German
actor/spy/master-of-disguise embarks on a scheme that will cast the fortunes of war in Hitler's favor. Diehl's most charming hero, Francis Scott Keegan, gets wind of the plot and the hunt is on, ending in a showdown piece de resistance at Jekyll's Island, Georgia. Actual history mixed with imagination and Diehl's brand of word imagery guarantee a breath-holding read. He's a powerful writer who has a lot to say and says it through explosive characters in fast-moving fiction. Each book is different from the others. He has so much to say that you wonder what he'll get into next.

"After Ginny [Diehl's wife] and Temple [his daughter] finished Reign they both said, ‘What are you going to do now? You've gotten everything you hate off your chest in this one. The trial sums up pretty much what I'm concerned about: Corrupt politics, pollution, bribery, PAC money disenfranchising the taxpayer, the average voter. All my books have underpinnings of things I want to say. Reign in Hell reflects the political situation in this country. In the end it is a battle between two egos -- two zealots -- which I felt was the simple way to focus on what the book is about."

In his books, ideas based on what he sees wrong in society, structures based on "what happens next," and strong intuition based in good sense combine to make his style. He claims not to have a set style. "I change it consciously. I am always conscious of point-of-view. For instance, Hooligans is told from two points of view, both told in first person. When my editor finished that one he said the nicest thing anyone has ever said about my writing. He said, ‘Nobody else would have the guts to try something that radical. And you're the only one I know who could pull it
off.' "

The point of view in Reign changes five times in the first five chapters, from Stampler to Vail to the man and his son to the head of the ambush squad to the President. "But I have to be careful not to parody myself. That's why I change my books -- until Vail they were all quite different -- by design. The danger is you get smug, it's easy, and so all books sound the same. I think a lot before I write: How I'm going to do this, how I'm going to do that. I've written characters in blank verse just to see how it works. It worked and we left it in.

"Look, style is two things, the quality of writing and the individuality of the vision. Everything else contributes to that. You can learn the craft, how to structure a sentence, how to research, but a lot of it comes from inside you. You are a channeler. You channel it all into one focal point; and when it's clicking, that's as good as it gets."

Although his books are about issues he considers major, Diehl says he never thinks about theme. Telling the story shares top priority with the creation of unforgettable characters. He even outlines -- backwards. There's a lot going on when Diehl's finding out what happens next. "Every night when I quit, I outline what I've written to keep track of what I've done. I use a program called Writer's Blocks which enables you to move chapters around. It automatically resequences the story. I do that quite often -- change chapters around -- mostly for the continuity of the story, sometimes for pacing."

When he's working on a book, Diehl goes at it in long stretches and he begins with characters. "I usually write 15- or 20-page bios on them [in Vail's case, the first take on him was 50 pages long] and then I write a book sequentially. As I create plots and subplots I usually have to stop and do research. I spent nine months researching Reign. Had to read the Bible, which I had never done
before, had to attend snake-handling services at a church in South Georgia, had to study the Nez Perce Indians, spend some time with militia members, learn how to structure a RICO (racketeering case) and learn the protocol involved in meetings with the President and his Cabinet."

The character Martin Vail (whom Richard Gere played in the movie of the first book in the Vail trilogy, Primal Fear) is "loosely" based on an Atlanta attorney. Every once in a while a friend will show up in a book sporting his own name, like Geoff Isaacs, a Canadian promoter and dear friend of Diehl's. But the best character Diehl has created is Francis Scott Keegan, the hero in The Hunt.

"I love Keegan," Diehl says. "He is as close to me as any character I have ever written. When I wrote 27 I decided in advance the historical events I wanted to use in the book, then just wrote to them as I was writing. Also the real historical characters like Dillinger, Hitler and Roosevelt. It was a tough book to write and is still my favorite, although I really like Reign because I did what I set out to do."

Aaron Stampler may be the most surprising villain to come along in fiction in a long time. Readers often wonder where a character like that came from. "Created straight from my warped imagination, to make a point, as usual. When I created Aaron Stampler in Fear I thought he was innocent, and Vail had a great challenge to prove him so. But as the book progressed the evil nature of that character grew and grew in my mind. Incidentally, the last line of that book came to me when I got to it. I leaned back and said to myself, ‘So that's what this book was all about.' What I now know is that subconsciously I was building to that climax all along, but just had not dealt with it until the end. So in the end I realized it was about a man so obsessed with winning that he was blinded to the truth.

"Look, we are all storytellers. That's what a novel is all about. How you construct a story to keep a reader drawn into it is one of the most important aspects. I'm a reader when I'm writing a book and I figure as long as I am hooked and happy, so will be the reader. But I must always remember that it is the spine of the story that counts, so sometimes I trash things I really like in order to keep the story on track. I don't want to cheat the reader.

"It's all in focus -- focus on the work, and nothing else matters. Don't accept the first thing that pops in your mind. Keep honing your craft. Avoid stifling your imagination at all costs. Don't stereotype. Think of a new reason why things happen, why characters are the way they are. I try new things in every book to keep it challenging and exciting. When I'm writing, that's the action. It keeps me thinking you, completely independent, and it's my job. I actually work for a living."

Diehl keeps faith in his dream, and he sincerely believes that the same dream can come true for new writers today, in spite of the clouds of doom and dark predictions of disaster hovering over the publishing industry. Persistence, he believes, is still the key. "Publishers are always looking for the next Grisham or King or Rice -- the big million-dollar writers -- and they will always buy a writer of talent who can tell a story. Only 10% of fiction books are bestsellers, but the margin is smaller now. Middle- and lower-echelon writers are disappearing, but think...Cold Mountain, Angela's Ashes: first novels [or memoirs]. So the market is there; it's just a little more cautious."

And the dream is there for us all, like the golden ring on the merry-go-round, glistening among our hopes, ready for us to claim it. William Diehl is the perfect example of what can happen when you decide to have your dream come true.


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Critics At Large Interview With William Diehl

From Talking Out of Turn: Revisiting the '80s by Kevin Courrier


Author William Diehl

(Sharky's Machine, Chameleon, Primal Fear), a writer who wrote luridly powerful pulp with a political tinge, became a fascinating exercise in self-examination. When I discovered that Diehl was a pacifist who once marched with Martin Luther King in the South during the demonstrations against segregation, I was compelled to find out how such a peaceful man reconciled his polar opposites. To both my surprise and satisfaction, he was more than happy to comply while providing a vivid examination (through his thriller Chameleon) of the growing political mercenary movements in the eighties that would ultimately lead to Waco and Oklahoma City. Diehl would die at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta on November 24, 2006, of an aortic aneurysm. At the time of his death, he was working on his tenth novel.

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kc: I get the impression that when you sit down to write there's quite a war going on in your head.

wd: That's quite true. I find that subconsciously things from my past keep getting in and coming out of the books. A lot of the critics in reviewing Chameleon have called it one of the most violent books ever written. Yet I'm basically a pacifist. I don't own weapons. I don't even have a gun in the house. I live alone on an island. No doubt that it's a throwback to World War II when I served as a ball-turret gunner. All of those latent aggressions and violence are surfacing now. It has to be that because I'm certainly not interested in becoming active in the things I write about. But I should say that there's nothing about the violence and the weaponry that I depict in Chameleon that isn't really happening today.

kc: In this book, you examine an assassination squad -- a secret terrorist organization that trains at "The Farm" -- What is that?

wd: I knew that "The Farm" existed. I've known about it for several years and I met the man who runs it. He's a guy named Mitch Warbell. One night, we started talking about the place and he told me that while a lot of mercenaries go through the training course, many of these people are bankers and folks going to countries where terrorism is prevalent. They take the course as a self-protective device. That's what triggered the idea. Then I went out and took the course. Over a period of six months, I spent time talking to the instructors. Their stories gave me the basis for the book.

kc: When you were describing a moment ago those latent aggressions and the violence, how does it manifest itself when you are writing a book like Chameleon?

wd: The first chapter of the book was triggered by the Doobie Brothers' song "What a Fool Believes," which I heard on the radio as I was driving home. The song started a lovely little romantic story going in my head. Suddenly, it turned very dangerous and it got very violent. I don't know where it came from. All of a sudden, as I'm working on this romantic idyll, it got very tough. It was then that the story took off.

kc: At the heart of this violent story is a particular code of honour. Where does this come from?

wd: Chameleon is a story about honorable people versus dishonorable people. And I've put at the heart of it the Oriental philosophy of honor. My belief is that the Oriental philosophy of honour is a very positive and uncompromising belief. Whereas in my country, you have to struggle just to be a little bit honest. That's why in my novel Sharky's Machine you have four cops who are basically losers who become winners in the end because they couldn't be corrupted. That's also the story of Chameleon where you have two or three people who are honourable. I'm dealing with knights on white horses slaying dragons. And I still believe that's possible.

kc: Does the writing of action fiction though become a safety valve for your own violent fantasies?

wd: It's indeed a great release. What it is, is playing out your fantasies on paper. For instance, in Chameleon, I developed my own brand of martial arts. What I did was draw stick figures where I could try out the moves -- sometimes in front of a video camera -- and describe them. I really got into it. Then I also got into the method of trying to remember things without taking notes which is what these people in the book could do. I never took it as far as them but I found that if I went into a restaurant and found it fascinating enough to use in a book, I can remember every little detail of it. Then I file it away in my word processor. Often I tell people that I'm a method writer because I actually act things out in the room because you deal with your psyche on paper.

kc: How do you act these things out?

wd: If I'm angry, I go in and write a violent passage for a book. When I come out, I don't even want to step on an ant. If I'm writing about a character that I really like, and I know that the character is going to be killed, I can get depressed for a couple of days. In Sharky's Machine, when Nosh, Sharky's best friend, gets killed, I got into a funk over that and I couldn't write for over three days. I was so upset over having to kill that character. When certain things happen, I react emotionally as it is really happening. It can be draining at times. It's a good thing that I live on an island where my house is a hundred feet from the Atlantic Ocean. A lot of times after writing a passage I'll go down to the beach just to calm myself down. What happens is that I get hysterical inside and I can't translate that on paper. How do you describe to anybody the feelings and thoughts that go through your head at times like that? The best thing to do is find a way to get rid of it, once you've used up the part you need to put on paper.

kc: I'd like to take that a step further. If you resolve certain conflicts within yourself, does it also mean that your writing will change?

wd: Absolutely. My writing changed radically from Sharky's Machine to Chameleon. And a lot of it is in the emotional content of the book. I think Chameleon is a better book than Sharky even though it feels colder. Maybe that's because of what some of the characters do in the story.

kc: Has living on the beach provided the sanctuary needed?

wd: Yeah. I remember when the film of Sharky's Machine had its world premiere in Atlanta. All of the movie stars came and it seemed like the biggest thing since Gone With the Wind. As a result of it, I started to get a celebrity status in Atlanta. I was expected to be places and doing things. This started to really disturb me because I started to lose the independence that I had gained by writing these books. One day, I got on this airplane and flew down to the coast of Georgia and told this real estate agent that I wanted an island. The agent found me one immediately. Now I don't even go to the mainland. I don't even want to leave this place. There's one place there that is like Cannery Row restaurant filled with expatriates and people who just go to escape like me. I go there in the morning, read the newspaper and chat, then I don't see them until the next day. Since I moved there my writing productivity just jumped.


kc: I guess the biggest distinction some would have to make meeting you -- or knowing you -- is to separate the man from the writer?

wd: Probably most writers become very involuted and difficult to deal with when they're working. And I feel that I'm difficult to deal with because I vague-out. I can hold a conversation without even knowing what I'm saying. I'm so used to doing it. When I'm through, I wake up one morning and the book is finished and I have nothing to do. It's a bit of a downer because I've been living with it for so long. Then I go and do crazy things like scuba diving for weeks at a time. It's a schizophrenic way to make a living, but I wouldn't have it any other way. I love the isolation. Nobody can invade it. What other occupation is there where you can be totally isolated and deal with yourself in whatever terms you want to deal with yourself in?

Talking Out of Turn #13: William Diehl (1982)


-- Kevin Courrier is a writer/broadcaster, film critic, teacher and author. His forthcoming book is Reflections in the Hall of Mirrors: American Movies and the Politics of Idealism. Courrier continues his lecture series on Film Noir (Roads to Perdition) at the Revue Cinema in Toronto in March. He's also facilitating a film series called Reel Politics at Ryerson University continuing February 27th.